Tuesday, October 30, 2007

Chris Brown & Timbo "Lottery"?

Yes we all read about Timbaland being on Chris Brown's album but as of late there has been no mention of the Timbo track for Brown's new album. I figured then that the news of the two working together must have referred to Timbaland and Chris Brown's recent pairing on this year's MTV VMA's with Timbo creating Brown's intro for his performance. However, this "Lottery" from Chris Brown's forthcoming album really has me wondering if Tim was a part of it.

Update: This track is produced by Rob Knox of The Underdogs. Timbaland did not make Brown's album despite what various media outlets reported. To all the Chris Brown, Rob Knox, and Underdogs fans, welcome to The Chronicles!

91 comments :

  1. Sounds good! It definitely has the Timbo sound he and his camp have had lately. All the discussions on this site have me wondering whether anything truly is done by Tim alone anymore. He is almost like a supervisor now, just stamping his name and approval on his ghost-producer's tracks. He probably just puts his name on there to increase the price and then takes a cut of the profits, giving the rest to the real producer.

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  2. first off i think that beat is fire, it has all the componets of a timbo beat the lo-fi snares and choir definately feel like timmy on the track, if its not him there trying really hard to sound like him

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  3. wikipedia is saying its timbaland (i know they're not the most credible source.) but it def sounds like something "the clutch" would write which could mean tim, danja or someone else is involved. but thats just my opinion.

    CJ

    Myspace.com/Cjblair

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  4. this sounds like timbo, but at the same time it sounds like polow or sum1 from his camp, more so than timbo solo. its nice tho but chris brown is gonna flop sorry to say lol.

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  5. I like it, i dont think its polow or someone from his camp more like tim and his camp. Im kind of tired of tim's camp getting on tracks i expect tim to produce, except for hannon and danja these two i dont mind.

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  6. Tim said he was doing 5 tracks and was scheduled to work with chris brown we all know that not all five would make the album if even any at all so it could be his just have to find out.

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  7. I was gonna say it sounds sort've like a Royal Court beat, but those Drums are way heavier than anything they've done plus that beat switch up the end doesn't sound like something they'd do.
    Still, I guess we wait for the album to drop for the production list, even though we know how creditable that is.

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  9. I'd say Royal Court but the drums do sound phatter than what King usually uses, so then that leads me to say Polow...guess we'll just have to wait and see

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  10. There hasn't been any mentioning of him working with polow it has to be tim but who knows anymore.

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  11. Tim is usually known for beat switches in his beats but now he hardly uses it anymore.

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  12. i bet money this not a timbaland solo. the chorus sounds familiar (wink wink) but im sure it was a group effort in the entire production. again we will have to wait 2 c the production credits. nontheless there are timbaland nuances in the track. i doubt if its polow da don. it doesnt feel like one of his tracks but ive been wrong in the past. regardless its a dope track

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  13. hey man.
    i think it sounds like timbaland.
    it kinda reminds me of the leaked keri hilson track "love ya" and i think danja was in involved with that
    with timbaland. but yeah definitely tim and possibly danja in my opinion.
    ps keep up the good work with the
    site man.
    *jerome*.

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  14. ^Yeah does sound like tim with danja dont think it was royal court.

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  15. Sounds like The Clutch...with some Royal Court elements except for the beat switches..nice track

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  16. my money's on Royal Court.. don't think it's Danja, don't think it's Timbo

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  17. Sounds like Tim & Bob...

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  18. negative on tim & bob and polow, more tim or danja.

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  19. Think about it. The sounds and every instrument used. Its a group effort involving the clutch timbaland, danja, king. Its all in one. Even polow might have helped as he is associated with them.

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  20. The chord progression reminds me of something the clutch would do.. Maybe danja on the beat.. I'm sure if tim did the track, he'd have his voice all over the track..

    It could just be another biter..

    Either way it's a sick beat

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  21. this is not timbaland.. sounds like polow a lil bit but i doubt if either are involved with it...i say its a new producer thats down with either of them gettin his shot....and since when if track has a beat switch it has too be timbaland..thats so ridiculous...when songs like this are posted it makes me question if people are really fans of tim..that u cant recognize his sound..no way this is tim

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  22. Didn't nobody say a beat switch determines its tim he doesn't better than anyone,but you could see the confusion since he has alot of biters people get mad when says he has them but its true or he is just teaching them his old style which alot of us like he has so many hard to choose.

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  23. I think it's funny when people get mad or question fans for not recognizing Tim's so called "sound" these days.

    With the combination of Danja, Hannon Lane, Royal Court, and Jim Beanz either producing or co-producing pretty much every production associated with Timbaland these days, I would say his "sound" isn't as distinguishable as it once was and it doesn't take a true fan to figure that out.

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  24. thank you i agree.

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  25. song has this "old" double-beat influence. think its solo tim.

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  26. the beat has a typical king logan pattern (icebox). but im not sure if this is tim. i think it sounds too unfocued to be tim or his protogees. it could be a biter, if its tim he hasnt put much effort into it. and the beatswitch at the end sounds more like someone trying to switch it like tim but cant. but i guess time will tell...

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  27. It's Rob Knox from the Underdog Camp.. Get it right..

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  28. It's freakin Rob Knox on the track and James Fauntleroy writing it. These two are the next ones in line.. Watch and see..

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  29. I think it's rob knox too! that kid's got heat.

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  30. It's UD's Rob Knox producing and Flosseroy on the lyrics. Now you know...

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  31. That's funny. It sounds like a combination of Clutch, Royal Court, and Danja to me.

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  32. Not really. Sounds like a good R&B song. Nothing more then that..

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  33. Danja and the Royal Court... working together? You guys need to get up on your stuff.

    But, that beat is really all over the place. It's not structured like anything I'd expect to hear from Danja, Timbo, or the Royal Court. And, now we know whodunit...

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  34. rob knox is the shi*, this beat is just the beginning.

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  35. I think its Tim and I am glad to hear again an asian melody in there!! I was waiting for it since the good old "all y'all"-track days..

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  36. Why is everybody hatin on everybody else.. Ya'll mad cuz your not on Chris Brown's album.. Get over it and get a life.

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  37. I know what you think. But I'm telling you that it's NOT Timb.. I know for a fact it's Rob Knox from the Underdog's..

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  38. Where is the Asian melody at?

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  39. Understand that timbaland produced this track or had a hand. The underdogs do bite his style but hink. Tim has made a transition to the point where we dont know his beats no more. But commonsense will tell you by listening to the drums, its timbalands prodcution crew all the way.

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  40. Underdog's don't bite anything about Timb so get that right homie.. They're sound isn't anywhere close to his sound. The UD's are ballad guys and Timb is Timb.. This song is not produced by Timb or anybody in his camp. I know for a fact it's not.. We can make a bet on it. It was Produced by Rob Knox from the underdogs. A new producer. Study your music. Underdog's have never sounded like this so now all of a sudden they do. They have a young guy under them doing this stuff.

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  41. that Rob Knox is dope!!!!!!!!!! and hes fine as hell!!!! talented and sexy?!?!? is he single???????
    -BFF

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  42. the beginning feels like Cry Me A River and the beat switch is also similar in ways. But it would definitely have timbo's voice in it, most likely vocoded if that. I can actually hear another producer somewhere in them middle of the track.i also think the song has too much layers to be either timbo or danja.

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  43. how u gonna say the underdogs dont bite anyones style. obviously they did if you have a bunch of people saying it sounds like someone in tims camp, numerous websites think its timbaland and if i took this song to people at my school and asked who they thought it was they'd say timbaland u know why? cuz it sounds like tim or the camp. so if it is Rob Knox that qualifies as biting tims style.

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  44. what about it sound's like a timbo bite? Can you specify?

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  45. I kind of agree that it does sound like timbaland mainly because The Choir, the drum pattern, percussion (mainly that snare).and the way the synths are layered.

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  46. ....and the beat switch up

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  47. The choir part I agree. That's about it. None of the synths sound like Timb. Drum pattern is a regular double kick type of pattern. Timbaland didn't invent that. Everbody before Timbaland's time has used that drum pattern.. Music is recycable people. Let's understand this..

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  48. Maaaaaan, this aint tim, this aint polow, or danja....this is robknox of the udogz! He's got 3 tracks on the album...make sure to purchase the limited lp nov 6th. Cop the album if you think I'm lyin!

    Peace

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  49. this doesn't feel like tim. the switch in the beat sounded.....un-fascinating. the rest of the track, it just lacks the imagination that we are used to seeing from tim.

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  50. Dude still a biter though he can twist it however you want play it to tim and his camp i bet he would get upset.

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  51. So I guess dude can't use a freakin kick or snare anymore cuz Timb used one also right?? I guess because crips and bloods wear red and blue, that means nobody else could wear red or blue.. It don't sound anything like Timb. Sound's like dude grew up listening to Timb's production and is influenced by it. That doesn't mean he's biting. Biting and influenced by is 2 different things. Timb isn't a brand new producer, he's a legend and a pioneer. If this cat bit Timb then EVERYBODY in the music biz have bit EVERYBODY ELSE..

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  52. anon, you sure are taking it hard.
    big shit he's biting timb's old style.

    no problems, it's still a tight track.
    let it go already

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  53. wow...55 comments..this gotta be the post with the most comments on the chronichles...and this track is almost for sure not produced by timbaland...lol!anyway the beat is hot...even though is not that well organized as an original tim beat...nice to see other producers influenced by tim though...who knows maybe they will one day sound even better than him...till then timbo is the king!!!

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  54. I wanna know who produced it already! I really don't think it was anyone having to do with the Underdogs they stick strictly to the R&B genre not Hip-Hop, this beat is Hip-Hop. I think its either a Timbaland & Danja track or possibly a Timbaland & Royal Court track, due to the drums cuz those are Timbaland drums. I need to find out who produced it so I am most definitely buying the Chris Brown album, its a good album everyone should pick it up!

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  55. song is wack period

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  56. Let me say it AGAIN. I know for a fact it's Rob Knox from the Underdog's. He's not one of the 2 main Underdog's.. He's one of the young producers they signed and is now gettin his shine.. He has 3 total songs on this album. But for some reason one of those song's is only on the Limited edition albums. He did Lottery, Help Me and Get Atcha.. I'm an intern for Jive so I know what the credits say.. James Fauntleroy wrote all 3 of the song's as well. These 2 cat's are doope I'm telling ya'll. They are the next cats in line!!!

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  57. Damn. This track is hot. I like the beat, especially on the chorus. But it's so raw the way people are taxing Timbo's style. *LOL*

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  58. I just read all these comments on "Lottery". It is most definitely a Rob Knox Track... no question. He's one of the new guns over at the Underdogs camp. All the speculating can come to an end. This is the absolute truth. I hear he's got a lot of heat, watch out for this guy.

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  59. Big up to this Rob Know guy. Its a good track. I personally dont understand how Timbaland can claim certain drum patterns and sounds. Doesnt leave much room for other up and coming producers to shine. I myself have been influenced by Timbalands music and it def shows in some of my works. So eat it. :)

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  60. instead of rob knox his new name should be rob timbaland for jackin his style lol i guess he can be added too the biters list also...damn now a days in music bitin is consider a form of appreication or some one being influnced... just look at in clothing terms say sneakers...u have the real authentic jordans and bapes and then u have the fake ones...but yet people choose too wear them as if there real...and much cheaper...so thats all this is a cheaper timbaland...very similar but not real

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  61. ^What do you mean "nowadays"? Classical composers have blatantly stolen from each other from day one. The BEST of them.

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  62. Rob Timbaland? Real corny dumb ass. I don't see where this guy bit Timbo from? Music is all recycable you moron. Everybody takes from everybody. What components of the song is a "Timbo" record. If anything, its closer to a Polow record. It has the feel of "Promise" from Ciara in terms of the kick pattern. But we can go on before that song and find the same kick pattern. That's the whole point.. You can never NOT use a kick pattern and not make it similiar to another.. A kick has to go "BOOM" and a snare has to go "SMACK".. It's the physics of our music.. If anything, at least he sounds similiar to somebody that's good. I'm glad he's not influenced by "Ay Bay Bay" or "Crank Dat" or some REAL WACK SHIT... I think this Rob Knox cat is dope. Please stop w/ the hating. I know you would love to be in his shoes and be on a Chris Brown album however many times as he's on it.

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  63. this guy above must be rob knox lil brother..take his penis out your mouth lol and back away from downloadin timabland and polow drum kits

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  64. He may be dope but you dont have to sound like any producer to get on apparently so now i guess.

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  65. He's right. Its an Underdogs Production. He also did Help Me and the Underdogs did Take You Down. Fauntleroy helped write on all 3 songs.
    -bigmac

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  66. man u guys kill me...about this guy your actin as if this is the greastest beat ever made..or song..its average at best...i cant see this being a single...just a album filler..biting is biting and he did it...he has no origianlity in my book...i bet this guy ends up like all the rest of the guys that bite...no where...so good luck rob knox...aka mr biter

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  67. FOR THE LAST FREEAAAKN TIME ROB KNOX DID THIS BEAT AND JAMES FAUNTELROY WROTE IT! I AM A WRITER AND I WORK AT UNDERDOGS STUDIO WIT SAINT NICK! I WAS THERE WEN CHRIS CAME IN TO RECORD SEVERAL TIMES!!! JUS WAIT TIL DA ALBUM COMES OUT TO CHECK THE CREDITS U RETARRRDS! LOTTTERY IS A R KNOX J FAUNTELROY PRODUCTION!

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  68. I bet this is Timbo you hijo de puta!!!

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  69. hey too the writer for knox above tell rob too come up with his own style...and own innovation...hes a producer so he knows how other producers feel about biters...or as you guys call inspiration..this is almost like stealing but then u say sorry after...say its hate all u want...but let one of u guys come up with sumthing and master it and along comes sumone who steals parts of u too incorporate it into there self...thats what lacks in music originality...be ur self and stop tryin too be sum one else...and then lie about it once people confront u...if i was tim id start smackin up biters

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  70. OK Rob Knox, you can come out of the closet now. We know its you writing all these pro-knox posts. I dont think even his mother would write such lovely stuff about him. And while youre at it you can go back into the closet, come out again and say "im a timbaland biter". that is not too hard to do is it? nothing to be ashamed of. to come out of the closet two times in the same day, good boy!

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  71. wooow some people on this blog are such haters.. go drink some "HATERADE" i mean if Chris Browns LABEL wanted timbo to do a song on his album then they would have just GOT TIMBO, hes just a CALL away ... DUHHHH !

    i mean Rob knox is a dope producer ... hes not stealing anyones style.... Give Credit when its DUE!
    Yall are just TIMBO DICK Riders anyway, I mean u sit here all day talkling bout TIMBO... wht type person does that ? oh yea U DO ...

    Whoevers been talking shit is just mad that there not getting Checks .. DONT STUDY ROB KNOX ..STUDY a BOOK ! ..naw maybe U should study Rob and james .. then you can learn something ..

    in closing ,if ur a producer ...Nigga STEP ur game up! so you can get to where James F and Rob Knox are ...LMAO .. u people Crack me up .

    - Yo MOMMA Bitches !
    and yes you just got SHITTED on By a GIRL :)

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  72. If you don't want to hear about him than dont post then tims proteges hannon danja previous producers kidd etc are better than rob knox and james f u mad??

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  73. exactly rob knox is exposed as a biter...great way too start ya career homie...the guy above is obviously knox...u seem so angry...just admit u like tim and polows style ...what a clown dont u realize this is a site for tim and his crew.. and jive got you too do the track because the dont have the budget for a tim track...they gave u about 10 grand...and tim is 500k so u do the math.. most of chris's budget went too the features on his cd...no ones hating on the fact you made it too his cd.. congrats by me..just the fact that your style is already being done by others...you and t-pain should produce together..since u like too jack styles

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  74. hey to the moron that wrote above this comment!! Nobody gets 500k a track anymore! Are ya'll on crack. All these people are all talking about this Rob Knox dude!! And even if he did get 10k a track, do you realize that he has 3 songs on this album??? Nobody has 3 on this album. Nobody evrn has over 2 on here. Do you know how much he will make off of his publishing??? Alot more then all of you timbo-dick riders make combined!! Yooo Rob Knox! Keep doing your thing homie. Fuck all these hating ass bitches! They all mad nobody is talking about them. Good or bad!

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  75. wow first when i said this mus be knox i wasnt 100% sure... but then i saw the reply. now im possitive.
    were not hating you rob knox. we just say that you need to chill. and get your own style. and its low of you dissing timbo fans on a timbaland fan site. youre obviously a timbaland fan yourself since you are here at the site. and then the production, just admit it you were a little too inspired by tim. who isnt these days?

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  76. Hahahahaha. This is funny as hell.. Why is everybody on here makin such a commotion about a song that don't even sound like Tim. Ya'll would of never said it sounded like tim if they didnt put this post up thinking tim did this song. seriously people. stop wit the gay shit. everybody let it go now. this song is cool. it isn't amazing. but its good. it doesn't sound like tim but because they made this post on the song and tim, now all of a sudden it sound's like tim.

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  77. Cause it does anyway cant wait to hear SkyCap the song tim produced for Mary's album.

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  78. Dont bother argueing Timbaland the best you will ever know has done it again. Chris brown http://youtube.com/watch?v=2y_tSMwOKGw

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  79. ^^ "Fallen Angel" produced by Bryan Michael Cox

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  80. YoUnG FreSh tA DeFFNovember 4, 2007 at 4:35 PM

    Tell you the real I have the album already. Rob Knox did track 10 track 14 and is on the special edition cd with smash song "Get Atcha". Chris talks about this song in every interview that he does. Now all the HATERS can can spit his DICK out ya mouth.

    Yall Know Who It Is
    Its Me Bitches!!!!!

    YoUnG FreSh tA DeFF
    www.myspace.com/flytillidie007

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  81. j boogie is dumb. Get out of here!

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  82. written by James Fauntleroy II/ Rob Knox/Harvey Mason jr/Damon thomas

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  83. hey fresh too death how long u been gettin pounded out by chris and rob...to come on here and stick up for ya " boys" i see u like too make alot homo comments, i guess u cant help it huh

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  84. YoUnG FreSh tA DeFFNovember 5, 2007 at 6:47 PM

    I know you took a long time to think of that responce, and the only one getting pounded out was ya girl last night, thats why she didnt answer her phone. :-). Fuckin Fag

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  85. Ok and here is the verdict.. Rob Knox did produce Lottery and he ALSO produced Help Me and Get At Ya.. This dude is kinda dope tho. All of the songs are dope and none of them sound alike so big ups to you Rob Knox. Fuck them hata's playa. keep doing ya thing thing feel me..

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  86. Enough with that already he got his props from you and others not shut hell up!!!!!

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  87. rob knox need some cokxxxss

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