Thursday, August 30, 2007

Kanye West-Stronger (Timbaland Version?)

Here's the version of "Stronger" on Kanye West's recently leaked CD, "Graduation", supposedly revamped by Tim. It's true that the drums are different and harder hitting, and there are choral vocals towards the end (reminiscent of Tim's recent style) but as no liner notes have been leaked, this is not 100% confirmed.

Compare the 2:

Original "Stronger"

New "Stronger"

24 comments :

  1. Good look Nick, I had this planned for today too ;)

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  2. nah its the same version man only this one is mastered, official cd master, thas why it hits harder but drums are identical !! trust me

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  3. nope, that's not true. the single version is an "official cd master", too...listen closely!

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  4. them drums be banging hard - good job timbo

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  5. its not a huge diference lets be real !!! Right ????????? be real people ! please

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  6. Shit! Am not happy with that, dey aint no difference even if it hits harder or softer. It still sound alike i was xpectin som "The Way i r remix" loops not sharper kicks 4rm kanye. U follow, gud post though!

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  7. Listen to the two versions in headphones and tell me there isn't a big difference. New version whether it be Tim or not, hits significantly harder and the drums become more prominent.

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  8. Meh, I think the main reason people are let down is because their expectations were placed too high. There's only so much bounce you can give a drum beat lol.

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  9. i actually like 500 times better...that's the one thing i hated about stronger, the lame drums.

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  10. Seriously, you all are retarded. These two are identical, the only difference is one is mastered as a single, the 2nd mastered to match the album. Songs are pre-mix & mastered all the time in advance to release as singles, but once the final product is ready to release, the song needs to match the EQ with the rest of the record. Simple as that. No more, no less.

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  11. I'm gonna have to say that there was nothing that you could have done to the drums to make this song even resemble "The Way I Are"... something had to be added (not just drums, but actual bass), and clearly, nothing significant was.

    Well, maybe the drums could've been mixed, but Kanye's prefering it raw could've prevented that.

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  12. Sorry, this isn't a difference in mastering. It sounds like some subtle thicker samples may have been placed beneath the originals in addition to the EQ differences. If you can't hear the difference, do some ear training.

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  13. Anyway, this wasn't about creating new drums for the song, it was about enhancing the originals...more bang. This is obviously going to be a subtle thing, but believe me...if you heard the two versions in a club, you'd be able to tell them apart pretty easily. If not, then you really can't hear, haha.

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  14. theres no difference its the same...its like sayin whats better pepsi or cole!!

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  15. if you can't tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi, you need to stop eating batteries

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  16. It seems that if you cared enough about music to make comments on a Timbaland blog page then you'd have the ear to dechiper when a sound has been drastically improved. You can compare more than just the two Strongers. Listen to Kanye's drums throughout the album - definitely his most glaring weakness as a producer. Tim's enhanced drums take that song to a different level and actually make Ye's beats sound a bit amatuerish (although still better than most).

    There truly is only one King when comes to driving the overall sound. The Neptunes use drums very well, on the level of Timbo, but don't have the creativity and variety in sound as Tim (also one of Kanye's strong points).

    If team redid all the drums on Kanye's album we'd be talking about a classic.

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  17. I agree with the dude above. Aside from Late Registration, Kanye's drums are usually wack. And LR was all sampled drums. The mix of the drums makes a HUGE difference!

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  18. there is a difference and its how potent the drums are... Tim has that on smash his drums hit HARD even tho now a days Jimmy doesn't make em hit hard as timbo had em back in the days but yea tim's drums will always reign supreme also there is difference but when they said he added something towards the end thats not true PEACE

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  19. wow nathan is a clown lol u type too much homie

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  20. u must be heated huh

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  21. Jayc, that's b/c Jimmy's not working on most of Tim's tracks, only on the "big" projects.

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  22. there's no difference in the production of the 2

    when the mix is done there are different mixes printed, one with vocals up, drums up instrumental tv track, radio edit (with early fade & intro)

    and then in mastering they do different passes for the album version (that has to be leveled with other songs on the album..

    and the single version..aka..club version which is usually the drums up mix mastered hotter (louder)for maximum DJ effectiveness...

    its definitely 2 different mixes, but its the same programming/drum sounds

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